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	<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/</link>
	<description>A blog about Downtown Jacksonville, Springfield, LaVilla, Brooklyn, the Southbank and San Marco.</description>
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		<title>By: Austin Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17572</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17572</guid>
		<description>Way too much is being read into the 76-24 mayoral result.  Jackie Brown's showing is about what you would expect from an unknown Democrat on the ballot in this city.  The African-American areas also happen to be the heavily Democratic areas... and that's why she won them.

Peyton picked up such a large margin because people know who he is... and while they may or may not like him, they knew absolutely nothing about Jackie Brown.  Or they knew that at some point in the past she showed up at a city council meeting in a costume of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too much is being read into the 76-24 mayoral result.  Jackie Brown&#8217;s showing is about what you would expect from an unknown Democrat on the ballot in this city.  The African-American areas also happen to be the heavily Democratic areas&#8230; and that&#8217;s why she won them.</p>
<p>Peyton picked up such a large margin because people know who he is&#8230; and while they may or may not like him, they knew absolutely nothing about Jackie Brown.  Or they knew that at some point in the past she showed up at a city council meeting in a costume of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: TrumanDem</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17390</link>
		<dc:creator>TrumanDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17390</guid>
		<description>There is another eyebrow raising factcor about Jackie Brown's 24% of the vote that even Ms. Weathersbee failed to touch on in her article.  Though she danced around it a couple of times she did at least come close:

"What that episode says is that too many people in the establishment have grown comfortable with certain groups being unseen and unheard- to the point where any attempt on their part to not accept their invisibility is seen as a threat. And when someone expects for them to accept invisibility as their status in life, well then, it's time for one of them to step up."

Almost Ms. Weathersbee.  Almost.  What she needed to say stright out is that marginalization means that 76% of the voters that day could careless about the plight of "those" areas of town they never have a reason to visit.  These voters are mostly white.  This failure falls directly into the lap of the local Democratic party.  As a member of that party part of that blame lies with me as well.  Unless the local Democratic party can craft a message that will resonate with the rest of the city that ALL areas of town deserve our undivided attention and realize the stake we have in them the marginalization will only become more acute which will no doubt be a catalyst for higher crime rates and othe socio-economic woes.

I will talk more about this later in detail on my blog.  We really need to 'demarginalize' those groups in Duval county soon or we will be paying a heavy price later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another eyebrow raising factcor about Jackie Brown&#8217;s 24% of the vote that even Ms. Weathersbee failed to touch on in her article.  Though she danced around it a couple of times she did at least come close:</p>
<p>&#8220;What that episode says is that too many people in the establishment have grown comfortable with certain groups being unseen and unheard- to the point where any attempt on their part to not accept their invisibility is seen as a threat. And when someone expects for them to accept invisibility as their status in life, well then, it&#8217;s time for one of them to step up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Almost Ms. Weathersbee.  Almost.  What she needed to say stright out is that marginalization means that 76% of the voters that day could careless about the plight of &#8220;those&#8221; areas of town they never have a reason to visit.  These voters are mostly white.  This failure falls directly into the lap of the local Democratic party.  As a member of that party part of that blame lies with me as well.  Unless the local Democratic party can craft a message that will resonate with the rest of the city that ALL areas of town deserve our undivided attention and realize the stake we have in them the marginalization will only become more acute which will no doubt be a catalyst for higher crime rates and othe socio-economic woes.</p>
<p>I will talk more about this later in detail on my blog.  We really need to &#8216;demarginalize&#8217; those groups in Duval county soon or we will be paying a heavy price later.</p>
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		<title>By: joeymarchy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17151</link>
		<dc:creator>joeymarchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17151</guid>
		<description>This article from Tonya Weathersbee  also reflects some of Ricks sentiments: &lt;a href="http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/032607/new_8793923.shtml" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jackie Brown's mayoral bid was courageous move&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;She managed to receive 24 percent of the vote - mostly from precincts in the city's perpetually struggling Northwest area. And even though Brown's showing wasn't large enough to reveal a significant undercurrent of discontent throughout the city, it still shows that scores of people, most of whom are black, aren't happy with the way their side of town isn't progressing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article from Tonya Weathersbee  also reflects some of Ricks sentiments: <a href="http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/032607/new_8793923.shtml" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.jacksonville.com');">Jackie Brown&#8217;s mayoral bid was courageous move</a></p>
<blockquote><p>She managed to receive 24 percent of the vote - mostly from precincts in the city&#8217;s perpetually struggling Northwest area. And even though Brown&#8217;s showing wasn&#8217;t large enough to reveal a significant undercurrent of discontent throughout the city, it still shows that scores of people, most of whom are black, aren&#8217;t happy with the way their side of town isn&#8217;t progressing.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: joeymarchy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17146</link>
		<dc:creator>joeymarchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17146</guid>
		<description>Nick, just wondering. When you wrote this:

"I think some editorial control should have been exercised here."

Were you aware of that Jackie Brown dressed as Aunt Jemima at a city council meeting as mentioned above?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, just wondering. When you wrote this:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think some editorial control should have been exercised here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Were you aware of that Jackie Brown dressed as Aunt Jemima at a city council meeting as mentioned above?</p>
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		<title>By: TrumanDem</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17081</link>
		<dc:creator>TrumanDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17081</guid>
		<description>J Says comments with a response:  "...With that logic, I guess that means all minorities &#38; poor people vote for democrats. How about maybe it’s possible that Jackie Brown saying she’s basically only worked for her families construction business and dressing as Aunt Jemima just wasn’t enough of a base for one to vote for her."

Interesting use of the word 'logic' here.  Your post reminds me of a hand full of my 10th grade students who employ 'selective' hearing when they want to whine about an assignment they failed to turn in.  In this case your response is a case of 'selective' reading.  I did not say ALL white middle class voters.  I was referring to that part of the GOP base that vote against their own economic interests.  Actually I should have included that lower class southern white male with the pick up and one or more uninsured kids being told to fear some guy/gal sleeping with a same sex partner in the next block while the Democrats plot to take away his guns.  Meanwhile the the GOP clamors for the eradication of a 'death' tax that has absolutely no effect on them economically during the distraction.  This is just a minor example whereas there others too numerous to list here.  Now, if you want to claim I'm stereotyping the aformentioned lower class southern white male:  bang - guilty as charged.  As for your allusion to a logical conclusion on my part regarding the minority vote I'd like to invite you to my blog and read my Sept. 24, 2006 entry on people that mistake minority voters as a monolithic voting bloc at their own peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J Says comments with a response:  &#8220;&#8230;With that logic, I guess that means all minorities &amp; poor people vote for democrats. How about maybe it’s possible that Jackie Brown saying she’s basically only worked for her families construction business and dressing as Aunt Jemima just wasn’t enough of a base for one to vote for her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting use of the word &#8216;logic&#8217; here.  Your post reminds me of a hand full of my 10th grade students who employ &#8217;selective&#8217; hearing when they want to whine about an assignment they failed to turn in.  In this case your response is a case of &#8217;selective&#8217; reading.  I did not say ALL white middle class voters.  I was referring to that part of the GOP base that vote against their own economic interests.  Actually I should have included that lower class southern white male with the pick up and one or more uninsured kids being told to fear some guy/gal sleeping with a same sex partner in the next block while the Democrats plot to take away his guns.  Meanwhile the the GOP clamors for the eradication of a &#8216;death&#8217; tax that has absolutely no effect on them economically during the distraction.  This is just a minor example whereas there others too numerous to list here.  Now, if you want to claim I&#8217;m stereotyping the aformentioned lower class southern white male:  bang - guilty as charged.  As for your allusion to a logical conclusion on my part regarding the minority vote I&#8217;d like to invite you to my blog and read my Sept. 24, 2006 entry on people that mistake minority voters as a monolithic voting bloc at their own peril.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17031</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17031</guid>
		<description>TrumanDem says "What exactly is it about white middle class voters that want to vote in people beholden to the oil industry?"

With that logic, I guess that means all minorities &#38; poor people vote for democrats. How about maybe it's possible that Jackie Brown saying she's basically only worked for her families construction business and dressing as Aunt Jemima just wasn't enough of a base for one to vote for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TrumanDem says &#8220;What exactly is it about white middle class voters that want to vote in people beholden to the oil industry?&#8221;</p>
<p>With that logic, I guess that means all minorities &amp; poor people vote for democrats. How about maybe it&#8217;s possible that Jackie Brown saying she&#8217;s basically only worked for her families construction business and dressing as Aunt Jemima just wasn&#8217;t enough of a base for one to vote for her.</p>
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		<title>By: PCollins</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17023</link>
		<dc:creator>PCollins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17023</guid>
		<description>I agree with Skimbro...both with finding out more about Gaffney &#38; Anderson, and seeing if we can get Pellino, who really showed her true colors post-election, any more spun up into a frenzy.

BTW Mrs. Pellino...it wasn't the bloggers who ruined your chances, it was your inability to answer questions with some substance. But your campaign signs have really brightened up the vacant Heionedes lots along Main St, so "Thanks!"

TrumanDem - while I agree with your take on Shrub, please tell me you don't always vote Democrat just because they are Democrat (something I may have "read" into a previous comment?)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Skimbro&#8230;both with finding out more about Gaffney &amp; Anderson, and seeing if we can get Pellino, who really showed her true colors post-election, any more spun up into a frenzy.</p>
<p>BTW Mrs. Pellino&#8230;it wasn&#8217;t the bloggers who ruined your chances, it was your inability to answer questions with some substance. But your campaign signs have really brightened up the vacant Heionedes lots along Main St, so &#8220;Thanks!&#8221;</p>
<p>TrumanDem - while I agree with your take on Shrub, please tell me you don&#8217;t always vote Democrat just because they are Democrat (something I may have &#8220;read&#8221; into a previous comment?)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: skimbro</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17005</link>
		<dc:creator>skimbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-17005</guid>
		<description>I'd like to see some analysis on the district 7 race. Post-mortems are always entertaining, in case anyone wanted to make Martha Pellino any more angry. But with the run-off coming up, we need to know more about Gaffney and Anderson. What sort of political base is each beholden to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see some analysis on the district 7 race. Post-mortems are always entertaining, in case anyone wanted to make Martha Pellino any more angry. But with the run-off coming up, we need to know more about Gaffney and Anderson. What sort of political base is each beholden to?</p>
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		<title>By: TrumanDem</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-16959</link>
		<dc:creator>TrumanDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-16959</guid>
		<description>Actually, Ms. Brown, if I'm not mistaken, in fact dressed like 'Aunt Jemima to make a point about how she was being perceived whenever she tried to speak before the City Council.  I thought it was quite effective.  As a southern white boy bred and raised in North Carolina (during segregation I might add) and Jacksonville during my early teen years, I voted for Ms. Brown as well.  What exactly is it about white middle class voters that want to vote in people beholden to the oil industry?  And then act shocked when gas starts rising above $2.50 cents a gallon.  There is a certain amount of symmetry when one looks at Gate Petroleum boy and his party affiliation with the Carrier lander codpiece in Chief pretending to be President.  Oh, that's right.  I forgot.  They are good ol' boys who you would rather have a beer with.  But then again you are always going to be the one to pick up the tab.  When will we ever learn?

As for your analysis.  Right on.  For someone that was unorganized and controversial, Ms. Brown's vote totals were in fact an eye brow raiser for me as well.  You can bet it didn't slip by Mr. Mike "Blue Cross Blue Shield boy" Hightower as well.  I think this bodes well for Democrats (that includes myself - as a former member of the DCDEC I can speak with some authority) in the future.  We just need to find that one person who can resonate with both the small business community and aveage vote at large.  That would beat out the large corporate interests every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Ms. Brown, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, in fact dressed like &#8216;Aunt Jemima to make a point about how she was being perceived whenever she tried to speak before the City Council.  I thought it was quite effective.  As a southern white boy bred and raised in North Carolina (during segregation I might add) and Jacksonville during my early teen years, I voted for Ms. Brown as well.  What exactly is it about white middle class voters that want to vote in people beholden to the oil industry?  And then act shocked when gas starts rising above $2.50 cents a gallon.  There is a certain amount of symmetry when one looks at Gate Petroleum boy and his party affiliation with the Carrier lander codpiece in Chief pretending to be President.  Oh, that&#8217;s right.  I forgot.  They are good ol&#8217; boys who you would rather have a beer with.  But then again you are always going to be the one to pick up the tab.  When will we ever learn?</p>
<p>As for your analysis.  Right on.  For someone that was unorganized and controversial, Ms. Brown&#8217;s vote totals were in fact an eye brow raiser for me as well.  You can bet it didn&#8217;t slip by Mr. Mike &#8220;Blue Cross Blue Shield boy&#8221; Hightower as well.  I think this bodes well for Democrats (that includes myself - as a former member of the DCDEC I can speak with some authority) in the future.  We just need to find that one person who can resonate with both the small business community and aveage vote at large.  That would beat out the large corporate interests every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-16657</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 05:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/03/23/urban-election-analysis/#comment-16657</guid>
		<description>You can't really compare the Sheriff's race in 2003 with this one.  Rutherford did really well against a well-spoken and well-qualified Dale Carson (with name recognition from his dad) and an African-American candidate who could rally up (and win) parts of Districts 7-10.   These two were far more serious candidates than Lem Sharp and whoever the other guy (Anderson?) was that ran in 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t really compare the Sheriff&#8217;s race in 2003 with this one.  Rutherford did really well against a well-spoken and well-qualified Dale Carson (with name recognition from his dad) and an African-American candidate who could rally up (and win) parts of Districts 7-10.   These two were far more serious candidates than Lem Sharp and whoever the other guy (Anderson?) was that ran in 2003.</p>
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