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	<title>Comments on: Will rising gas prices increase downtown residency?</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/</link>
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		<title>By: noone</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47433</link>
		<dc:creator>noone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bent, if you want to get into some really entertaining and interesting theories check out the blog http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bent, if you want to get into some really entertaining and interesting theories check out the blog <a href="http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: bentnail</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47337</link>
		<dc:creator>bentnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47337</guid>
		<description>And, DP I should sit you down with my local source and let you listen to a few real life career experiences in military special forces and federal law enforcement.  It's pretty bad when this person is considering retirement and views it much the same as trying to quit the Mafia.

Sure I sound paranoid because my radar is blaring full alert.  I've learned over the years to trust this instinct because it has proved correct when I thought it was preposterous.  Same for 9/11 I'm afraid, but not based on the coincidental evidence or the suspected conspiracies.  Like you, I prefer concrete evidence, and so while watching "Zeitgeist" as mentioned by noone;

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/zeitgeist.htm

there came one image in the rubble of the WTC that was undeniable.  It only lasts for a few seconds and I should see if I can get the still.  If you chose to watch it, it would be interesting if the same one catches your undivided attention.  But we don't need to discuss that topic now.

As for Peak Oil, why didn't the recently released IEA Report get any MSM coverage other than buried back in the business sections of NYT, LA Times, and WSJ?  This is probably one of the most important news topics of the year.  Too boring?  Whitehouse and Iraq War still taking all the oxygen in the room?  Projections too far out for the average American to pay attention?  MSM collusion with corporate overseers?  Who knows.  In some regards, I'm glad because it gives me more time to make preparations without the frenzied masses.  No, I'm not preparing for the end of civilization.  These are long term actions much the same as planning for pre-retirement and retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, DP I should sit you down with my local source and let you listen to a few real life career experiences in military special forces and federal law enforcement.  It&#8217;s pretty bad when this person is considering retirement and views it much the same as trying to quit the Mafia.</p>
<p>Sure I sound paranoid because my radar is blaring full alert.  I&#8217;ve learned over the years to trust this instinct because it has proved correct when I thought it was preposterous.  Same for 9/11 I&#8217;m afraid, but not based on the coincidental evidence or the suspected conspiracies.  Like you, I prefer concrete evidence, and so while watching &#8220;Zeitgeist&#8221; as mentioned by noone;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/zeitgeist.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/zeitgeist.htm</a></p>
<p>there came one image in the rubble of the WTC that was undeniable.  It only lasts for a few seconds and I should see if I can get the still.  If you chose to watch it, it would be interesting if the same one catches your undivided attention.  But we don&#8217;t need to discuss that topic now.</p>
<p>As for Peak Oil, why didn&#8217;t the recently released IEA Report get any MSM coverage other than buried back in the business sections of NYT, LA Times, and WSJ?  This is probably one of the most important news topics of the year.  Too boring?  Whitehouse and Iraq War still taking all the oxygen in the room?  Projections too far out for the average American to pay attention?  MSM collusion with corporate overseers?  Who knows.  In some regards, I&#8217;m glad because it gives me more time to make preparations without the frenzied masses.  No, I&#8217;m not preparing for the end of civilization.  These are long term actions much the same as planning for pre-retirement and retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: bentnail</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47334</link>
		<dc:creator>bentnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47334</guid>
		<description>(Source) http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

...GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
 
"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."
 
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
 
I've talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution "a goddamned piece of paper."

Still paranoid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Source) <a href="http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8230;GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t give a goddamn,&#8221; Bush retorted. &#8220;I&#8217;m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. President,&#8221; one aide in the meeting said. &#8220;There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,&#8221; Bush screamed back. &#8220;It&#8217;s just a goddamned piece of paper!&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution &#8220;a goddamned piece of paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still paranoid?</p>
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		<title>By: Downtownparks</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47329</link>
		<dc:creator>Downtownparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47329</guid>
		<description>So because Congress passed, and the States ratified a constitutional amendment almost 95 years ago, we are now today becoming a facist state?

Im down with your Peak Oil stuff, but I think you live in a paranoid world otherwise. And while I am not a big fan of Bush's, I don't remember him saying the constitution is just a "piece of paper".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So because Congress passed, and the States ratified a constitutional amendment almost 95 years ago, we are now today becoming a facist state?</p>
<p>Im down with your Peak Oil stuff, but I think you live in a paranoid world otherwise. And while I am not a big fan of Bush&#8217;s, I don&#8217;t remember him saying the constitution is just a &#8220;piece of paper&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bentnail</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47327</link>
		<dc:creator>bentnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47327</guid>
		<description>On Income Tax:  I found this and find it simply Orwellian.  To get around the appropriation stipulation of the Constitution, they employed a bit of "double speak" and defined personal income as "an indirect excise tax" - Ginsberg.  Now anyone knows there was very clear intent by the Constitution authors to separate goods from your Person or your services.  By twisting the definition, (and the courts have done it a few times), they conveniently make it constitutional.

"Over the years, courts have considered numerous claims that one or another nonapportioned tax is a direct tax and therefore unconstitutional. Although these cases have not definitively marked the boundary between taxes that must be apportioned and taxes that need not be ... some characteristics of each may be discerned. Only three taxes are definitely known to be direct: (1) a capitation ... (2) a tax upon real property, and (3) a tax upon personal property.... Such direct taxes are laid upon one’s “general ownership of property,” [citations omitted], as contrasted with excise taxes laid “upon a particular use or enjoyment of property or the shifting from one to another of any power or privilege incidental to the ownership or enjoyment of property.” … More specifically, excise taxes include, in addition to taxes upon consumable items, … income from employment.... [Emphasis added.]"

I guess Bush was right, the Constitution is just a piece of paper.  You're f**ked, and well on your way to a fascist state - sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Income Tax:  I found this and find it simply Orwellian.  To get around the appropriation stipulation of the Constitution, they employed a bit of &#8220;double speak&#8221; and defined personal income as &#8220;an indirect excise tax&#8221; - Ginsberg.  Now anyone knows there was very clear intent by the Constitution authors to separate goods from your Person or your services.  By twisting the definition, (and the courts have done it a few times), they conveniently make it constitutional.</p>
<p>&#8220;Over the years, courts have considered numerous claims that one or another nonapportioned tax is a direct tax and therefore unconstitutional. Although these cases have not definitively marked the boundary between taxes that must be apportioned and taxes that need not be &#8230; some characteristics of each may be discerned. Only three taxes are definitely known to be direct: (1) a capitation &#8230; (2) a tax upon real property, and (3) a tax upon personal property&#8230;. Such direct taxes are laid upon one’s “general ownership of property,” [citations omitted], as contrasted with excise taxes laid “upon a particular use or enjoyment of property or the shifting from one to another of any power or privilege incidental to the ownership or enjoyment of property.” … More specifically, excise taxes include, in addition to taxes upon consumable items, … income from employment&#8230;. [Emphasis added.]&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess Bush was right, the Constitution is just a piece of paper.  You&#8217;re f**ked, and well on your way to a fascist state - sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: bentnail</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47325</link>
		<dc:creator>bentnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47325</guid>
		<description>I agree Sustainable.  The cars are the bull in the china shop.  When commuting by either motorcycle or bicycle, I learned to grow eyes in the back of my head.  And I did get the odd angry, resentful car driver.  Talk about anger issues!  One time while riding my motorcycle I had to put my boot into a guy's door during a rush hour car jam because he tried to swerve and knock me off.

Unfortunately, we have become a culture that values the car more than the human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Sustainable.  The cars are the bull in the china shop.  When commuting by either motorcycle or bicycle, I learned to grow eyes in the back of my head.  And I did get the odd angry, resentful car driver.  Talk about anger issues!  One time while riding my motorcycle I had to put my boot into a guy&#8217;s door during a rush hour car jam because he tried to swerve and knock me off.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we have become a culture that values the car more than the human.</p>
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		<title>By: SustainableJax</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47128</link>
		<dc:creator>SustainableJax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47128</guid>
		<description>In reference to the various posts in this thread having to do with motorcycles:  

Yes, it is sometimes dangerous commuting on a motorcycle, because cars resent/envy, don't watch for us, and don't see us. 

But if lots more people rode two-wheeled vehicles, and the consequence was less cars, then it would be less dangerous for bikes.  See?  Simple.  Lots of big, crowded, European cities have significant motorcycle/scooter/bicycle contingents, and though I don't know the statistics, I bet bikes are much safer option there, where they're expected, integrated, and ubiquitous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to the various posts in this thread having to do with motorcycles:  </p>
<p>Yes, it is sometimes dangerous commuting on a motorcycle, because cars resent/envy, don&#8217;t watch for us, and don&#8217;t see us. </p>
<p>But if lots more people rode two-wheeled vehicles, and the consequence was less cars, then it would be less dangerous for bikes.  See?  Simple.  Lots of big, crowded, European cities have significant motorcycle/scooter/bicycle contingents, and though I don&#8217;t know the statistics, I bet bikes are much safer option there, where they&#8217;re expected, integrated, and ubiquitous.</p>
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		<title>By: bentnail</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47087</link>
		<dc:creator>bentnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47087</guid>
		<description>It's not a matter of paying taxes, I do.  It's a matter of the law.  It is supposed to rule just about everything we do.  I recommend you watch the movie Zeitgeist as mentioned by noone.

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/zeitgeist.htm

The law has two sides for both the citizen and the authority.  Otherwise we are just Sheeple.  And no, I don't plan on living here too much longer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of paying taxes, I do.  It&#8217;s a matter of the law.  It is supposed to rule just about everything we do.  I recommend you watch the movie Zeitgeist as mentioned by noone.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/zeitgeist.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/zeitgeist.htm</a></p>
<p>The law has two sides for both the citizen and the authority.  Otherwise we are just Sheeple.  And no, I don&#8217;t plan on living here too much longer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Downtownparks</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47073</link>
		<dc:creator>Downtownparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47073</guid>
		<description>Susie Tolbert was considered out of zone for us, Holiday Hill, which is in the southside/beach blvd area is considered IN zone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susie Tolbert was considered out of zone for us, Holiday Hill, which is in the southside/beach blvd area is considered IN zone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: skimbro</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/10/will-rising-gas-prices-increase-downtown-residency/#comment-47065</link>
		<dc:creator>skimbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not in general true that you can pick a magnet in your own zone. That's probably allowed when there are open spots, but I know from the example of Stockton Elementary that there are many people living in the zone who fail to get in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not in general true that you can pick a magnet in your own zone. That&#8217;s probably allowed when there are open spots, but I know from the example of Stockton Elementary that there are many people living in the zone who fail to get in.</p>
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