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	<title>Comments on: Dalton removes downtown trees because they are &#8220;too messy&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/</link>
	<description>A blog about Downtown Jacksonville, Springfield, LaVilla, Brooklyn, the Southbank and San Marco.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hugh G. Rection</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-50256</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh G. Rection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-50256</guid>
		<description>how about instead of ripping the poor, defenseless trees out, they build a tree house which can also double as a reception desk and waiting area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about instead of ripping the poor, defenseless trees out, they build a tree house which can also double as a reception desk and waiting area?</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Lopez-Bernal</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-50130</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Lopez-Bernal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-50130</guid>
		<description>This is absolutely absurd...I've witnessed this same thing occur in suburban parking lots, where trees were removed due to birds populating them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely absurd&#8230;I&#8217;ve witnessed this same thing occur in suburban parking lots, where trees were removed due to birds populating them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vicupstate</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49666</link>
		<dc:creator>vicupstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49666</guid>
		<description>It doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize they are doing this for one reason and one reason only.  To increase visibility of their building and/or logo.  

AT LEAST they didn't try to make the argument that the tress were diseased or something.   

Great precedent to set too.  I guess this gives case law to cutting trees in other DT locations as well.  

Jax SUX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a brain surgeon to realize they are doing this for one reason and one reason only.  To increase visibility of their building and/or logo.  </p>
<p>AT LEAST they didn&#8217;t try to make the argument that the tress were diseased or something.   </p>
<p>Great precedent to set too.  I guess this gives case law to cutting trees in other DT locations as well.  </p>
<p>Jax SUX</p>
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		<title>By: rick k</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49154</link>
		<dc:creator>rick k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49154</guid>
		<description>If they are taking out only three trees then  shouldnt the canopy remain mostly intact.

I would think a good design agency would be able to cultivate some of the trees and create a corporate image that utilizes the unique presentation.

not that they need any branding help. seems to be the go to firm for GOB politicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are taking out only three trees then  shouldnt the canopy remain mostly intact.</p>
<p>I would think a good design agency would be able to cultivate some of the trees and create a corporate image that utilizes the unique presentation.</p>
<p>not that they need any branding help. seems to be the go to firm for GOB politicans.</p>
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		<title>By: bentnail</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49150</link>
		<dc:creator>bentnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49150</guid>
		<description>Cutting down trees these days may be considered a capitol crime, but in this instance I have to agree with the Dalton Agency if they are talking about the trees in the middle of the sidewalk.  I hope they are keeping the ones along the curb.

The trees in the middle of the sidewalk should never have been planted there in the first place.  I don't have much sympathy for this sensationalist, eco-indignant attitude.  It only displays a narrow understanding of the spectrum of issues.  I've been around long enough to see this type of grandstanding doesn't help their cause.  Environmental advocacy works at much deeper levels than tree hugging.

Start with bio-fuels.  There's a global environmental disaster waiting/already happening.  Already the market is deciding do we feed people or do we pour it into our gas tanks?  Do we preserve tropical forests, or do we cut it down to grow bio-fuel crops (Brazil and Indonesia)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cutting down trees these days may be considered a capitol crime, but in this instance I have to agree with the Dalton Agency if they are talking about the trees in the middle of the sidewalk.  I hope they are keeping the ones along the curb.</p>
<p>The trees in the middle of the sidewalk should never have been planted there in the first place.  I don&#8217;t have much sympathy for this sensationalist, eco-indignant attitude.  It only displays a narrow understanding of the spectrum of issues.  I&#8217;ve been around long enough to see this type of grandstanding doesn&#8217;t help their cause.  Environmental advocacy works at much deeper levels than tree hugging.</p>
<p>Start with bio-fuels.  There&#8217;s a global environmental disaster waiting/already happening.  Already the market is deciding do we feed people or do we pour it into our gas tanks?  Do we preserve tropical forests, or do we cut it down to grow bio-fuel crops (Brazil and Indonesia)?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49070</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49070</guid>
		<description>The original 'Park Place' sign can't be seen fully with the amount of  growth...I tried getting a shot for an entry weeks ago but couldn't get a single shot without branches in view blocking it.

Trimming and pruning would be acceptable.  With the folliage across the street on the sidewalk, it'd blend.  Take out these trees and it'd look pretty bare...not to mention having to either 'patch' the big holes or redo the entire sidewalk section there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original &#8216;Park Place&#8217; sign can&#8217;t be seen fully with the amount of  growth&#8230;I tried getting a shot for an entry weeks ago but couldn&#8217;t get a single shot without branches in view blocking it.</p>
<p>Trimming and pruning would be acceptable.  With the folliage across the street on the sidewalk, it&#8217;d blend.  Take out these trees and it&#8217;d look pretty bare&#8230;not to mention having to either &#8216;patch&#8217; the big holes or redo the entire sidewalk section there.</p>
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		<title>By: joshtank</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49049</link>
		<dc:creator>joshtank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49049</guid>
		<description>i'm going to bring some hammocks to them. That should solve this problem. hammocks are comfortable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m going to bring some hammocks to them. That should solve this problem. hammocks are comfortable!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49044</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49044</guid>
		<description>They probally want the trees gone so people can see their logo. They are a design agency after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probally want the trees gone so people can see their logo. They are a design agency after all.</p>
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		<title>By: JA</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49035</link>
		<dc:creator>JA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/07/20/dalton-removes-downtown-trees-because-they-are-too-messy/#comment-49035</guid>
		<description>You can find the Jax landscape code via Municode...more specifically, here:

http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp?pid=12174&#38;sid=9

You will have to dig down to Chapter 656 &#124; Zoning Code; Part 12; Subpart B; Sec. 656.1205.  I find it hard to believe that they could remove the existing trees without some mitigation; even in the downtown area.  Then again, stranger things have happened.

Thank you.

p.s. - nice reference of Landscape Architects; we don't usually get referenced...it's usually a landscaper or something silly like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find the Jax landscape code via Municode&#8230;more specifically, here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp?pid=12174&amp;sid=9" rel="nofollow">http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp?pid=12174&amp;sid=9</a></p>
<p>You will have to dig down to Chapter 656 | Zoning Code; Part 12; Subpart B; Sec. 656.1205.  I find it hard to believe that they could remove the existing trees without some mitigation; even in the downtown area.  Then again, stranger things have happened.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>p.s. - nice reference of Landscape Architects; we don&#8217;t usually get referenced&#8230;it&#8217;s usually a landscaper or something silly like that.</p>
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