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		<title>By: AuntieTata</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189764</link>
		<dc:creator>AuntieTata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all in for the update. I think more grassroots type stuff might fire that base. What do ya know about community organizations in art. I would be interested in knowing what all is out there to join. How about an article on that? Give us clues on bringing on change and what steps you can take to get involved? How open is the city art council? Are there small local groups? Should we start something? How do we make it easier for more people? How accesible are these groups?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m all in for the update. I think more grassroots type stuff might fire that base. What do ya know about community organizations in art. I would be interested in knowing what all is out there to join. How about an article on that? Give us clues on bringing on change and what steps you can take to get involved? How open is the city art council? Are there small local groups? Should we start something? How do we make it easier for more people? How accesible are these groups?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Marchy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189698</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Marchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great sentiment Andrew. I don&#039;t think you are being pessimistic, just realistic. I see the same things you describe, we swim in it. It&#039;s hard not to notice. BUT, I do feel a change is coming. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have new tools to organize and project our voices loud enough for like minds to hear. We are in the organization stage, next is planning, then action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great sentiment Andrew. I don&#39;t think you are being pessimistic, just realistic. I see the same things you describe, we swim in it. It&#39;s hard not to notice. BUT, I do feel a change is coming. </p>
<p>We have new tools to organize and project our voices loud enough for like minds to hear. We are in the organization stage, next is planning, then action.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189696</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be pessimistic, but the problem with Jax is the people. Until the people, the regular people, see the benefit in the arts and how they affect the city&#039;s growth, we&#039;re dead in the water. Ignorance is a prevailing state of mind in Jacksonville, people are practically bred on it. Being a local commercial arts professional, the gulf between us and cities that are forward thinking and progressive is very large and more visible than to your average citizen. The City Council and most of local government only cares to line their coffers and their &quot;good &#039;ole boy&quot; friends. When it comes down to food on my plate or my peers their priorities aren&#039;t quite the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All this can be changed, but there are plenty impediments between change and the current state of things. Sometimes people in the local arts community can be their own worst enemies and only further this endemic way of thinking. I&#039;ve lived here almost 20 years, most of my life, and Jacksonville is heavily segregated when it comes to the cultures that live within this city. This can probably be said of most cities, people of like minds tend to flock together, but the problem in Jax is that the power brokers are generally not of this culture forward mindset. Our voice is limited in scope and power. People like Tony Allegretti, Joey Marchy and others are the only voices we have that can propel change. Without having more voices and, essentially, more representation, change is a long, hard-fought battle which causes us to lose the aforementioned talent by attrition. And without opening up our culture to be understood and appreciated the general populous we lessen our chances for receptiveness and increase our chances for the long standing monikers like &quot;artsy&quot;, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not trying to make generalizations about everyone in Jacksonville, merely observations of my many years living here. The people that are doing something about this by reaching out to local government is very encouraging. Makes me feel proud. Anyone that works in the local arts (commercial and otherwise) understands how hard it can be to make a living in Jax, and is well aware of the gulf between our average income and those of other cities. Having a city that really opens up to being culturally mindful will in turn have a trickle down effect in many areas. From bringing in more talent, retaining it&#039;s current talent and improving the quality of live within the city are all great tangible benefits. These are benefits that will befit the city and translate to a stronger economy and a better city. Plain and simple.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, here&#039;s to doing our part and kudos to Joey, Tony and everyone else that is doing something about it. We all need to be doers and not talkers, something we all struggle with. Unity, commitment and openness will force the tide to change, hopefully sooner than later.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...my two cents, for what it&#039;s worth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be pessimistic, but the problem with Jax is the people. Until the people, the regular people, see the benefit in the arts and how they affect the city&#39;s growth, we&#39;re dead in the water. Ignorance is a prevailing state of mind in Jacksonville, people are practically bred on it. Being a local commercial arts professional, the gulf between us and cities that are forward thinking and progressive is very large and more visible than to your average citizen. The City Council and most of local government only cares to line their coffers and their &#8220;good &#39;ole boy&#8221; friends. When it comes down to food on my plate or my peers their priorities aren&#39;t quite the same.</p>
<p>All this can be changed, but there are plenty impediments between change and the current state of things. Sometimes people in the local arts community can be their own worst enemies and only further this endemic way of thinking. I&#39;ve lived here almost 20 years, most of my life, and Jacksonville is heavily segregated when it comes to the cultures that live within this city. This can probably be said of most cities, people of like minds tend to flock together, but the problem in Jax is that the power brokers are generally not of this culture forward mindset. Our voice is limited in scope and power. People like Tony Allegretti, Joey Marchy and others are the only voices we have that can propel change. Without having more voices and, essentially, more representation, change is a long, hard-fought battle which causes us to lose the aforementioned talent by attrition. And without opening up our culture to be understood and appreciated the general populous we lessen our chances for receptiveness and increase our chances for the long standing monikers like &#8220;artsy&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not trying to make generalizations about everyone in Jacksonville, merely observations of my many years living here. The people that are doing something about this by reaching out to local government is very encouraging. Makes me feel proud. Anyone that works in the local arts (commercial and otherwise) understands how hard it can be to make a living in Jax, and is well aware of the gulf between our average income and those of other cities. Having a city that really opens up to being culturally mindful will in turn have a trickle down effect in many areas. From bringing in more talent, retaining it&#39;s current talent and improving the quality of live within the city are all great tangible benefits. These are benefits that will befit the city and translate to a stronger economy and a better city. Plain and simple.</p>
<p>So, here&#39;s to doing our part and kudos to Joey, Tony and everyone else that is doing something about it. We all need to be doers and not talkers, something we all struggle with. Unity, commitment and openness will force the tide to change, hopefully sooner than later.</p>
<p>&#8230;my two cents, for what it&#39;s worth</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Marchy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189692</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Marchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that losing the Jaguars could be CATastrophic. Meow, I don&#039;t even want to think about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that losing the Jaguars could be CATastrophic. Meow, I don&#39;t even want to think about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Marchy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189691</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Marchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the comment Louis. It will be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple weeks. I agree with you the Mayor lost some momentum today with the Finance Committee voting against the increase. He&#039;ll need to be much more persuasive in the next month. That or wait till council slips up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the comment Louis. It will be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple weeks. I agree with you the Mayor lost some momentum today with the Finance Committee voting against the increase. He&#39;ll need to be much more persuasive in the next month. That or wait till council slips up.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgie/porgie</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189690</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgie/porgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Jason. In jax you can be a big fish in a little pond. Thats ok.&lt;br&gt;Um, one thing im leaning hard on now is what can i or one do to gather momentum for jax. I think to be competitive to said cities, the loss of the Jacquars could be cathastophic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Jason. In jax you can be a big fish in a little pond. Thats ok.<br />Um, one thing im leaning hard on now is what can i or one do to gather momentum for jax. I think to be competitive to said cities, the loss of the Jacquars could be cathastophic.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis William Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189679</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis William Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We think we have got the mayor on the run now, and his tax increase will fail. The question is will he cut the non essential projects that benefit only those friends of his who get the contracts to produce and staff them or will he cut the services that are vital to the average citizen? Mayor Peyton seems to be beyond reach and so it will probably be the latter, in order to soften the road for him once he leaves office. Oh for the days when the citizenry had ready access to tar and feathers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We think we have got the mayor on the run now, and his tax increase will fail. The question is will he cut the non essential projects that benefit only those friends of his who get the contracts to produce and staff them or will he cut the services that are vital to the average citizen? Mayor Peyton seems to be beyond reach and so it will probably be the latter, in order to soften the road for him once he leaves office. Oh for the days when the citizenry had ready access to tar and feathers!</p>
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		<title>By: jackdiablo</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189678</link>
		<dc:creator>jackdiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear! I particularly like the bit about making Jacksonville a place people want to move to, not from. Seems like everybody I&#039;ve met recently is just trying to figure out where they want to move. Cheers to the folks who see potential, fill the vacancies and make shit happen. It seems like there is some organization going on. If we can get the city to throw us a bone, things can only get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear! I particularly like the bit about making Jacksonville a place people want to move to, not from. Seems like everybody I&#39;ve met recently is just trying to figure out where they want to move. Cheers to the folks who see potential, fill the vacancies and make shit happen. It seems like there is some organization going on. If we can get the city to throw us a bone, things can only get better.</p>
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		<title>By: TheUrbanCore</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2009/07/20/quality-of-life-at-stake-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-189674</link>
		<dc:creator>TheUrbanCore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comment J. Those cities and states are also taxed way higher (even with our increase to a sustainable level) and way more expensive to get something going in. Please don&#039;t move, but if you do don&#039;t forget to come back. I feel like Duval is ever-improving. Ps- I love all the budget coverage at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanjacksonville.info&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.urbanjacksonville.info&lt;/a&gt;. It is my favorite place to catch the latest. Thanks Joey..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comment J. Those cities and states are also taxed way higher (even with our increase to a sustainable level) and way more expensive to get something going in. Please don&#39;t move, but if you do don&#39;t forget to come back. I feel like Duval is ever-improving. Ps- I love all the budget coverage at <a href="http://www.urbanjacksonville.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanjacksonville.info</a>. It is my favorite place to catch the latest. Thanks Joey..</p>
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		<title>By: jason_contentdg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason_contentdg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Joey.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To be honest Atlanta, and lesser so Seattle, has been a real draw for me professionally.  Architecture and design in those cities is much more progressive than what we have here in Jacksonville. (All one needs to do is compare the Public Libraries of Seattle and Jacksonville.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, one of the things keeping me here is the potential that we have in Jacksonville and really being able to help get the movement for better design/culture/arts off of the ground.  This is obviously one of the reasons we started The Urban Facelift Project. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, for me It will be more gratifying and exciting to be part of the pioneering group in a city that is ready and has potential, than to go off to a city where you become a follower behind a line of people that previously laid down the gauntlet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Joey.  </p>
<p>To be honest Atlanta, and lesser so Seattle, has been a real draw for me professionally.  Architecture and design in those cities is much more progressive than what we have here in Jacksonville. (All one needs to do is compare the Public Libraries of Seattle and Jacksonville.)</p>
<p>But, one of the things keeping me here is the potential that we have in Jacksonville and really being able to help get the movement for better design/culture/arts off of the ground.  This is obviously one of the reasons we started The Urban Facelift Project. </p>
<p>However, for me It will be more gratifying and exciting to be part of the pioneering group in a city that is ready and has potential, than to go off to a city where you become a follower behind a line of people that previously laid down the gauntlet.</p>
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